On logic, deductive reasoning, the scientific method, and other tools for helping to determine what's actually real, and what's made up bullshit designed to make us all look stupid.
Thank you for simplifying this “debate”! Your basic logic approach to this subject is refreshing....and sadly, very necessary. Hard to believe this subject has gained so much traction of late.
Not to mention the fact that FE is a psyop to begin with. It's intentional psychological warfare. They count on the fact that most people don't like to do all that "sciency stuff" themselves. Most people are followers and believers. They follow. They believe. They know they don't know, so it feels good to believe.
Great article, but you could've even made it simpler for anyone to experience.
People don't even have to leave their homes to prove the Earth is a sphere.
How can they do so?
Well, just take sunrises and sunsets.
Sun rises every morning on the East by slowly rising above the eastern horizon and sets every night on the west by receding below the western horizon.
We all see this on a daily basis. This is proof the Earth is a sphere. If it were a flat disk, the sun would "set", or rather, disappear, by going further and further away in the sky until it disappears. But it doesn't do that. If falls below the horizon, because the Earth is a rotating sphere.
Again, great article and thank you so so so much for it. It's time for the flat earth delusion to go away. There is literally not a single credible argument for flat earth that a relatively well-educated 15 year old couldn't debunk.
Mar 14, 2023·edited Mar 14, 2023Liked by OhDevolveAlready
"They talk about HAM radios tracking satellites, watching a Starlink launch and then seeing the satellites come back over 90 minutes later from the other side. Listening in on the Russian space station. Observing the way that the stars track, and which constellations are visible in the southern hemisphere vs. the northern hemisphere."
-- that's me, citing my article. I'd love it if you link to it in your article. Peace.
I heard some absolute nonsense from some guy on YouTube claiming "the airplanes fly twice as fast on those longer routes" presumably to hide the "truth" about their Flat Earth. It's off the charts ridiculous, and I would laugh if I hadn't seen some otherwise-lovely-and-knowledgeable people - one of them a doctor, go full belly-flop into the Flat Earth soup. They are just so SURE, too.
Patrick thinks he can debunk people's sound reasoning by reading their text in a dirisive voice. Yet he deigns to insist he is talking about logic. He's a great thespian, but hardly a logician.
Careful. The author is sounding off on ridiculous Flat Earth Society talking points. We know how to spot them. They repeat the same arguments. The article is chalked full of magic words, maths and claims meant to deceive and influence the easily manipulated into ceasing their search and quit questioning everything. Do not be black-pilled by such agents of deceit. Logical fallacies abound and straight up claims made in complete error. This article and its author is nothing but an attempt to slander and self agrandize. They claim to be part of the Truth movement all the while pushing helio-sorcery which is another huge red flag. There is a model for the flat earth. Look to the moon. There is erefutable visual proof. Perhaps the author should search footage from high altitude balloons and learn how to think mirror and stop letting their eyes deceive them. There's no more secrets. The cat is out of the bag. Earth is ____.
I like the simple proofs displayed, I think that's really the key to this whole issue.
I think that it is worth talking to Flat Earth people, because it's actually a good exercise in and of itself, essentially it's how can we draw upon information that we know to prove something is such and such.
It draws upon making models, debating, hopefully friendly, and learning about human psychology too because some people defend an idea, rather than defending the facts or the things which are being observed, and it's important to learn that about human nature.
WOW! I could not disagree with you more. It is the globe earth which cannot be proven, and the flat earth model which the Bible refers to over 200 times. How do you wrap a vaulted firmament around a spinning globe? You don't. I have done the research with an open mind. It's clear you have not.
The author clearly has done zero research into the FE claims, instead he uses globalist talking points & propaganda under the banner of "The Science", but there's nothing remotely scientific about his approach.
Perhaps research Modus Tollens, it will give you a gateway towards the logically fallacies your article falls into time and again.
Geometry ("earth measurement") isn't something that can be 'debated.' Either you can do proper geometry or you can't. And if you can't, you also can't do math or basic logic. Gunnels doesn't really believe that the earth is flat. He's too smart for that. He's running an Op.
Excellent analysis! Hopefully, people will begin to exercise that gray matter between their ears.
Thank you for simplifying this “debate”! Your basic logic approach to this subject is refreshing....and sadly, very necessary. Hard to believe this subject has gained so much traction of late.
Not to mention the fact that FE is a psyop to begin with. It's intentional psychological warfare. They count on the fact that most people don't like to do all that "sciency stuff" themselves. Most people are followers and believers. They follow. They believe. They know they don't know, so it feels good to believe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7F21OhnRcI
This is awesome! Thank you for putting this together!!
Please come on Reading Epic Threads and debate me on this topic. I'm moving today but starting tuesday you can literally name your time slot.
Great article, but you could've even made it simpler for anyone to experience.
People don't even have to leave their homes to prove the Earth is a sphere.
How can they do so?
Well, just take sunrises and sunsets.
Sun rises every morning on the East by slowly rising above the eastern horizon and sets every night on the west by receding below the western horizon.
We all see this on a daily basis. This is proof the Earth is a sphere. If it were a flat disk, the sun would "set", or rather, disappear, by going further and further away in the sky until it disappears. But it doesn't do that. If falls below the horizon, because the Earth is a rotating sphere.
Again, great article and thank you so so so much for it. It's time for the flat earth delusion to go away. There is literally not a single credible argument for flat earth that a relatively well-educated 15 year old couldn't debunk.
"They talk about HAM radios tracking satellites, watching a Starlink launch and then seeing the satellites come back over 90 minutes later from the other side. Listening in on the Russian space station. Observing the way that the stars track, and which constellations are visible in the southern hemisphere vs. the northern hemisphere."
-- that's me, citing my article. I'd love it if you link to it in your article. Peace.
https://godparticle.substack.com/p/how-i-know-the-earth-isnt-flat/
I heard some absolute nonsense from some guy on YouTube claiming "the airplanes fly twice as fast on those longer routes" presumably to hide the "truth" about their Flat Earth. It's off the charts ridiculous, and I would laugh if I hadn't seen some otherwise-lovely-and-knowledgeable people - one of them a doctor, go full belly-flop into the Flat Earth soup. They are just so SURE, too.
Thank you. Sometimes we need to go back to a place where the basics are proven to be true, then build from there.
Patrick thinks he can debunk people's sound reasoning by reading their text in a dirisive voice. Yet he deigns to insist he is talking about logic. He's a great thespian, but hardly a logician.
https://rumble.com/v2ctiym-a-guy-who-thinks-he-can-prove-we-live-on-a-ball.html?mref=1kmjt&mc=74ywj
Shit. I read the comments... Never read the comments.
Careful. The author is sounding off on ridiculous Flat Earth Society talking points. We know how to spot them. They repeat the same arguments. The article is chalked full of magic words, maths and claims meant to deceive and influence the easily manipulated into ceasing their search and quit questioning everything. Do not be black-pilled by such agents of deceit. Logical fallacies abound and straight up claims made in complete error. This article and its author is nothing but an attempt to slander and self agrandize. They claim to be part of the Truth movement all the while pushing helio-sorcery which is another huge red flag. There is a model for the flat earth. Look to the moon. There is erefutable visual proof. Perhaps the author should search footage from high altitude balloons and learn how to think mirror and stop letting their eyes deceive them. There's no more secrets. The cat is out of the bag. Earth is ____.
I like the simple proofs displayed, I think that's really the key to this whole issue.
I think that it is worth talking to Flat Earth people, because it's actually a good exercise in and of itself, essentially it's how can we draw upon information that we know to prove something is such and such.
It draws upon making models, debating, hopefully friendly, and learning about human psychology too because some people defend an idea, rather than defending the facts or the things which are being observed, and it's important to learn that about human nature.
WOW! I could not disagree with you more. It is the globe earth which cannot be proven, and the flat earth model which the Bible refers to over 200 times. How do you wrap a vaulted firmament around a spinning globe? You don't. I have done the research with an open mind. It's clear you have not.
This is a really poor article.
The author clearly has done zero research into the FE claims, instead he uses globalist talking points & propaganda under the banner of "The Science", but there's nothing remotely scientific about his approach.
Perhaps research Modus Tollens, it will give you a gateway towards the logically fallacies your article falls into time and again.
Amateur hour.
https://rumble.com/vqhvzt-ewaranons-what-on-earth-happened-all-13-parts-full-15.11.2021.html
Geometry ("earth measurement") isn't something that can be 'debated.' Either you can do proper geometry or you can't. And if you can't, you also can't do math or basic logic. Gunnels doesn't really believe that the earth is flat. He's too smart for that. He's running an Op.